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		<title>By: Talking Green: solar energy</title>
		<link>http://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/2009/02/13/electric-revenue-decoupling/comment-page-2/#comment-6016</link>
		<dc:creator>Talking Green: solar energy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2011 18:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ralph Cavanagh, NDRC: Tells a story about refrigerator. He says, &#8220;if utilities helping customers, they should be profitable.&#8221; NDRC is one of the collaborators in the Appliance Standards Awareness Project (ASAP) with Alliance to Save Energy. We have to break true addiction to natural gas and electricity because utilities is fixed cost capital intensive business. Give an example of how Idaho Power help its customers to save electricity and correlation with its financial impact when company recovers cost of investments. Briefly touched on &#8216;decoupling.&#8217; Note: more on  electric rate decoupling here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Ralph Cavanagh, NDRC: Tells a story about refrigerator. He says, &#8220;if utilities helping customers, they should be profitable.&#8221; NDRC is one of the collaborators in the Appliance Standards Awareness Project (ASAP) with Alliance to Save Energy. We have to break true addiction to natural gas and electricity because utilities is fixed cost capital intensive business. Give an example of how Idaho Power help its customers to save electricity and correlation with its financial impact when company recovers cost of investments. Briefly touched on &#8216;decoupling.&#8217; Note: more on  electric rate decoupling here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Dirty Secret behind the American Clean Energy and Security Act&#160;&#124;&#160;Conservatives for America</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Dirty Secret behind the American Clean Energy and Security Act&#160;&#124;&#160;Conservatives for America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 20:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] out the cost to provide energy from the profit base of the company. In this report from the Institute for Energy Research entitled Electric Revenue Decoupling Explained, by Robert J. Michaels, he sets out the rationale [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] out the cost to provide energy from the profit base of the company. In this report from the Institute for Energy Research entitled Electric Revenue Decoupling Explained, by Robert J. Michaels, he sets out the rationale [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TrevorLoudon.com: New Zeal Blog &#187; The dirty secret behind the American Clean Energy and Security Act</title>
		<link>http://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/2009/02/13/electric-revenue-decoupling/comment-page-1/#comment-5805</link>
		<dc:creator>TrevorLoudon.com: New Zeal Blog &#187; The dirty secret behind the American Clean Energy and Security Act</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 00:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] out the cost to provide energy from the profit base of the company. In this report from the Institute for Energy Research entitled Electric Revenue Decoupling Explained, dated February 13, 2009 by Robert J. Michaels, he [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] out the cost to provide energy from the profit base of the company. In this report from the Institute for Energy Research entitled Electric Revenue Decoupling Explained, dated February 13, 2009 by Robert J. Michaels, he [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The dirty secret behind the American Clean Energy and Security Act &#124; Liberty Ink Journal</title>
		<link>http://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/2009/02/13/electric-revenue-decoupling/comment-page-1/#comment-5765</link>
		<dc:creator>The dirty secret behind the American Clean Energy and Security Act &#124; Liberty Ink Journal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2011 11:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] out the cost to provide energy from the profit base of the company. In this report from the Institute for Energy Research entitled Electric Revenue Decoupling Explained, dated February 13, 2009 by Robert J. Michaels, he [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] out the cost to provide energy from the profit base of the company. In this report from the Institute for Energy Research entitled Electric Revenue Decoupling Explained, dated February 13, 2009 by Robert J. Michaels, he [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Liberty Ink Journal</title>
		<link>http://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/2009/02/13/electric-revenue-decoupling/comment-page-1/#comment-4777</link>
		<dc:creator>Liberty Ink Journal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 12:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] from the profit base of the company. In this report from the Institute for Energy Research entitled Electric Revenue Decoupling Explained, dated February 13, 2009 by Robert J. Michaels, he sets out the rationale for this. If an energy [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] from the profit base of the company. In this report from the Institute for Energy Research entitled Electric Revenue Decoupling Explained, dated February 13, 2009 by Robert J. Michaels, he sets out the rationale for this. If an energy [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Herbert A Samuel</title>
		<link>http://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/2009/02/13/electric-revenue-decoupling/comment-page-1/#comment-579</link>
		<dc:creator>Herbert A Samuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 14:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professor Michaels argues that decoupling &quot;rests on the false assumption that consumers use too much electricity and cannot figure out their own ways to conserve. As any of us who have turned off a lamp or put on a sweater know, consumers who want to conserve or save money on electricity have a variety [of] options.&quot;  

I find this a somewhat disengenious argument.  First of all, he sets up a straw man (assumption that consumers &quot;use too much energy&quot;)to knock down.  After all: how much is too much?  Who decides?  Too much for me may be not enough for someone else.  Clearly, this is a subjective, values-based judgement and any such assumption can be easily discredited on that basis.

Of more importance is the next part of his argument; that consumers &quot;who want to&quot; conserve or save money on energy can figure out on their own how to conserve and that they have a wide range of options to do so.

Both of these assertions are correct, but that&#039;s not really the point.  It is a truism that informed people can figure out how to do the right thing, and often have a variety of options for taking action, in a given situation.  But the implication that, left to themselves, consumers will actually *do* the right thing, is suspect.  It is well known that people often do not take the necessary action, even when equipped with the right information.  

For example: consider the problem of obesity.  Most people in the developed world know how to lose weight or keep their weight down, but (according to World Health Organisation data) people all over the world are getting fatter.

Then, there is the question: how many consumers &quot;want to&quot; conserve?  Does everyone want to?  Should everyone want to?  Energy conservation has long been accepted as a good thing for society in general.  In free societies (and constrained by the law) people can &quot;want to&quot; do anything.  But if incentives are available to increase the number of people who actively want to conserve, that would seem to be a good thing as well.

So the issue comes back to the problem of providing the right incentives for action.  In this case, incentives need to be provided to both sides of the electricity consumption equation: the supplier side and the consumer side. Whether decoupling is the most effective supply-side policy or not is debatable, but it seems clear that a laissez-faire approach has not worked in the area of energy conservation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professor Michaels argues that decoupling &#8220;rests on the false assumption that consumers use too much electricity and cannot figure out their own ways to conserve. As any of us who have turned off a lamp or put on a sweater know, consumers who want to conserve or save money on electricity have a variety [of] options.&#8221;  </p>
<p>I find this a somewhat disengenious argument.  First of all, he sets up a straw man (assumption that consumers &#8220;use too much energy&#8221;)to knock down.  After all: how much is too much?  Who decides?  Too much for me may be not enough for someone else.  Clearly, this is a subjective, values-based judgement and any such assumption can be easily discredited on that basis.</p>
<p>Of more importance is the next part of his argument; that consumers &#8220;who want to&#8221; conserve or save money on energy can figure out on their own how to conserve and that they have a wide range of options to do so.</p>
<p>Both of these assertions are correct, but that&#8217;s not really the point.  It is a truism that informed people can figure out how to do the right thing, and often have a variety of options for taking action, in a given situation.  But the implication that, left to themselves, consumers will actually *do* the right thing, is suspect.  It is well known that people often do not take the necessary action, even when equipped with the right information.  </p>
<p>For example: consider the problem of obesity.  Most people in the developed world know how to lose weight or keep their weight down, but (according to World Health Organisation data) people all over the world are getting fatter.</p>
<p>Then, there is the question: how many consumers &#8220;want to&#8221; conserve?  Does everyone want to?  Should everyone want to?  Energy conservation has long been accepted as a good thing for society in general.  In free societies (and constrained by the law) people can &#8220;want to&#8221; do anything.  But if incentives are available to increase the number of people who actively want to conserve, that would seem to be a good thing as well.</p>
<p>So the issue comes back to the problem of providing the right incentives for action.  In this case, incentives need to be provided to both sides of the electricity consumption equation: the supplier side and the consumer side. Whether decoupling is the most effective supply-side policy or not is debatable, but it seems clear that a laissez-faire approach has not worked in the area of energy conservation.</p>
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		<title>By: Herbert A Samuel</title>
		<link>http://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/2009/02/13/electric-revenue-decoupling/comment-page-1/#comment-4287</link>
		<dc:creator>Herbert A Samuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 14:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professor Michaels argues that decoupling &quot;rests on the false assumption that consumers use too much electricity and cannot figure out their own ways to conserve. As any of us who have turned off a lamp or put on a sweater know, consumers who want to conserve or save money on electricity have a variety [of] options.&quot;  

I find this a somewhat disengenious argument.  First of all, he sets up a straw man (assumption that consumers &quot;use too much energy&quot;)to knock down.  After all: how much is too much?  Who decides?  Too much for me may be not enough for someone else.  Clearly, this is a subjective, values-based judgement and any such assumption can be easily discredited on that basis.

Of more importance is the next part of his argument; that consumers &quot;who want to&quot; conserve or save money on energy can figure out on their own how to conserve and that they have a wide range of options to do so.

Both of these assertions are correct, but that&#039;s not really the point.  It is a truism that informed people can figure out how to do the right thing, and often have a variety of options for taking action, in a given situation.  But the implication that, left to themselves, consumers will actually *do* the right thing, is suspect.  It is well known that people often do not take the necessary action, even when equipped with the right information.  

For example: consider the problem of obesity.  Most people in the developed world know how to lose weight or keep their weight down, but (according to World Health Organisation data) people all over the world are getting fatter.

Then, there is the question: how many consumers &quot;want to&quot; conserve?  Does everyone want to?  Should everyone want to?  Energy conservation has long been accepted as a good thing for society in general.  In free societies (and constrained by the law) people can &quot;want to&quot; do anything.  But if incentives are available to increase the number of people who actively want to conserve, that would seem to be a good thing as well.

So the issue comes back to the problem of providing the right incentives for action.  In this case, incentives need to be provided to both sides of the electricity consumption equation: the supplier side and the consumer side. Whether decoupling is the most effective supply-side policy or not is debatable, but it seems clear that a laissez-faire approach has not worked in the area of energy conservation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professor Michaels argues that decoupling &#8220;rests on the false assumption that consumers use too much electricity and cannot figure out their own ways to conserve. As any of us who have turned off a lamp or put on a sweater know, consumers who want to conserve or save money on electricity have a variety [of] options.&#8221;  </p>
<p>I find this a somewhat disengenious argument.  First of all, he sets up a straw man (assumption that consumers &#8220;use too much energy&#8221;)to knock down.  After all: how much is too much?  Who decides?  Too much for me may be not enough for someone else.  Clearly, this is a subjective, values-based judgement and any such assumption can be easily discredited on that basis.</p>
<p>Of more importance is the next part of his argument; that consumers &#8220;who want to&#8221; conserve or save money on energy can figure out on their own how to conserve and that they have a wide range of options to do so.</p>
<p>Both of these assertions are correct, but that&#8217;s not really the point.  It is a truism that informed people can figure out how to do the right thing, and often have a variety of options for taking action, in a given situation.  But the implication that, left to themselves, consumers will actually *do* the right thing, is suspect.  It is well known that people often do not take the necessary action, even when equipped with the right information.  </p>
<p>For example: consider the problem of obesity.  Most people in the developed world know how to lose weight or keep their weight down, but (according to World Health Organisation data) people all over the world are getting fatter.</p>
<p>Then, there is the question: how many consumers &#8220;want to&#8221; conserve?  Does everyone want to?  Should everyone want to?  Energy conservation has long been accepted as a good thing for society in general.  In free societies (and constrained by the law) people can &#8220;want to&#8221; do anything.  But if incentives are available to increase the number of people who actively want to conserve, that would seem to be a good thing as well.</p>
<p>So the issue comes back to the problem of providing the right incentives for action.  In this case, incentives need to be provided to both sides of the electricity consumption equation: the supplier side and the consumer side. Whether decoupling is the most effective supply-side policy or not is debatable, but it seems clear that a laissez-faire approach has not worked in the area of energy conservation.</p>
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		<title>By: Lori Aniti</title>
		<link>http://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/2009/02/13/electric-revenue-decoupling/comment-page-1/#comment-423</link>
		<dc:creator>Lori Aniti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 18:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason why decoupling is being touted is so that utilities will not have the disincentive they currently do to improve the technology of the transmission and distribution system that will allow much greater system efficiency and lower the amount of total energy needed to fulfill customer demand. Under the current rate system, utilities are afraid that with increased efficiency, they will lose some of their sales and thus some of their income.  These technology improvements could allow a rate structure that encourages customers to both conserve energy and use more of it during off-peak times when fewer customers are using electricity and fewer generators (the cleaner, low cost ones) are running.  This technology allows  customers to know how much energy their appliances are using and when, so they can reduce use of &quot;energy hog&quot; appliances, and switch use to less expensive times of day. Currently, the utility has no way of knowing for most customers, who exactly is using energy and when and cannot communicate this to customers.  Therefore, they cannot use these rate structures that encourage even more efficiency and peak load management.  Still more efficiency savings will come from lowering electricity line losses which means that less generation will be needed to fulfill customer electricity demand. This advanced technology will also allow more intermittent renewable (clean) energy such as wind, roof top solar and fuel cells to connect to the electricity distribution system without causing problems.  There are a lot of benefits to updating transmission and distribution technology, however, we need a rate structure that encourages investment in these technology improvements which are currently available and have the ability to greatly reduce the amount of generators needed to deliver electricity demanded by consumers and increase the amount of clean renewable generation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason why decoupling is being touted is so that utilities will not have the disincentive they currently do to improve the technology of the transmission and distribution system that will allow much greater system efficiency and lower the amount of total energy needed to fulfill customer demand. Under the current rate system, utilities are afraid that with increased efficiency, they will lose some of their sales and thus some of their income.  These technology improvements could allow a rate structure that encourages customers to both conserve energy and use more of it during off-peak times when fewer customers are using electricity and fewer generators (the cleaner, low cost ones) are running.  This technology allows  customers to know how much energy their appliances are using and when, so they can reduce use of &#8220;energy hog&#8221; appliances, and switch use to less expensive times of day. Currently, the utility has no way of knowing for most customers, who exactly is using energy and when and cannot communicate this to customers.  Therefore, they cannot use these rate structures that encourage even more efficiency and peak load management.  Still more efficiency savings will come from lowering electricity line losses which means that less generation will be needed to fulfill customer electricity demand. This advanced technology will also allow more intermittent renewable (clean) energy such as wind, roof top solar and fuel cells to connect to the electricity distribution system without causing problems.  There are a lot of benefits to updating transmission and distribution technology, however, we need a rate structure that encourages investment in these technology improvements which are currently available and have the ability to greatly reduce the amount of generators needed to deliver electricity demanded by consumers and increase the amount of clean renewable generation.</p>
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		<title>By: Lori Aniti</title>
		<link>http://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/2009/02/13/electric-revenue-decoupling/comment-page-1/#comment-4286</link>
		<dc:creator>Lori Aniti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 18:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason why decoupling is being touted is so that utilities will not have the disincentive they currently do to improve the technology of the transmission and distribution system that will allow much greater system efficiency and lower the amount of total energy needed to fulfill customer demand. Under the current rate system, utilities are afraid that with increased efficiency, they will lose some of their sales and thus some of their income.  These technology improvements could allow a rate structure that encourages customers to both conserve energy and use more of it during off-peak times when fewer customers are using electricity and fewer generators (the cleaner, low cost ones) are running.  This technology allows  customers to know how much energy their appliances are using and when, so they can reduce use of &quot;energy hog&quot; appliances, and switch use to less expensive times of day. Currently, the utility has no way of knowing for most customers, who exactly is using energy and when and cannot communicate this to customers.  Therefore, they cannot use these rate structures that encourage even more efficiency and peak load management.  Still more efficiency savings will come from lowering electricity line losses which means that less generation will be needed to fulfill customer electricity demand. This advanced technology will also allow more intermittent renewable (clean) energy such as wind, roof top solar and fuel cells to connect to the electricity distribution system without causing problems.  There are a lot of benefits to updating transmission and distribution technology, however, we need a rate structure that encourages investment in these technology improvements which are currently available and have the ability to greatly reduce the amount of generators needed to deliver electricity demanded by consumers and increase the amount of clean renewable generation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason why decoupling is being touted is so that utilities will not have the disincentive they currently do to improve the technology of the transmission and distribution system that will allow much greater system efficiency and lower the amount of total energy needed to fulfill customer demand. Under the current rate system, utilities are afraid that with increased efficiency, they will lose some of their sales and thus some of their income.  These technology improvements could allow a rate structure that encourages customers to both conserve energy and use more of it during off-peak times when fewer customers are using electricity and fewer generators (the cleaner, low cost ones) are running.  This technology allows  customers to know how much energy their appliances are using and when, so they can reduce use of &#8220;energy hog&#8221; appliances, and switch use to less expensive times of day. Currently, the utility has no way of knowing for most customers, who exactly is using energy and when and cannot communicate this to customers.  Therefore, they cannot use these rate structures that encourage even more efficiency and peak load management.  Still more efficiency savings will come from lowering electricity line losses which means that less generation will be needed to fulfill customer electricity demand. This advanced technology will also allow more intermittent renewable (clean) energy such as wind, roof top solar and fuel cells to connect to the electricity distribution system without causing problems.  There are a lot of benefits to updating transmission and distribution technology, however, we need a rate structure that encourages investment in these technology improvements which are currently available and have the ability to greatly reduce the amount of generators needed to deliver electricity demanded by consumers and increase the amount of clean renewable generation.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward A Law</title>
		<link>http://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/2009/02/13/electric-revenue-decoupling/comment-page-1/#comment-418</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward A Law</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 17:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It appears that decoupling is a great incentive for power companies to increase rates and fill the pockets of shareholders; however, once again it is too much power for the federal/state governments.  What happened to the free enterprise (Capitalism) that the US is noted for?   

Once again the government is getting involved and the people get gouged whether they conserve or splurge on the use of utilities.  The US appears to be heading toward a Socialist State more and more as each day passes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears that decoupling is a great incentive for power companies to increase rates and fill the pockets of shareholders; however, once again it is too much power for the federal/state governments.  What happened to the free enterprise (Capitalism) that the US is noted for?   </p>
<p>Once again the government is getting involved and the people get gouged whether they conserve or splurge on the use of utilities.  The US appears to be heading toward a Socialist State more and more as each day passes.</p>
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