Comments on: Does Your Electricity Come From “Congress-approved” Renewables? http://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/2009/05/02/does-your-electricity-come-from-congress-approved-sources/ Institute for Energy Research Wed, 08 Feb 2012 17:06:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Ed Nisbett http://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/2009/05/02/does-your-electricity-come-from-congress-approved-sources/comment-page-2/#comment-2799 Ed Nisbett Sat, 27 Mar 2010 19:45:23 +0000 http://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/?p=3576#comment-2799 Driving west last week on Interstate 40 near Amarillo, Texas I passed a large wind farm that literally stretched for miles, and most if not all of the windmills were turning. Returning east three days later only one or two of the units was working, demonstrating the utter unreliability of this method of power generation. It quite clear that conventional fossil power stations would have to kept going on a stand-by basis to maintain some semblance of reliability, again increasing cost. The so called clean coal system is almost as bad, although it will give a dependable power supply albeit at the inflated cost that comes from having to build and operate an oxygen plant next door to the power station, burn the coal in oxygen instead of air and then capture the carbon dioxide,and compress it in the new compressor equipment next door to the oxygen plant and pipe the compressed gas away to some distant location for underground disposal. The pipe line for this is also new of course. Look for electricity rates to double or even triple. It would make more sense to examine the greenhouse gas myths in a more scientific manner than has been done so far. The current reports that are the basis for the cap and trade proposals were written by believers who had prepared their conclusions before starting any of the research. Driving west last week on Interstate 40 near Amarillo, Texas I passed a large wind farm that literally stretched for miles, and most if not all of the windmills were turning. Returning east three days later only one or two of the units was working, demonstrating the utter unreliability of this method of power generation. It quite clear that conventional fossil power stations would have to kept going on a stand-by basis to maintain some semblance of reliability, again increasing cost. The so called clean coal system is almost as bad, although it will give a dependable power supply albeit at the inflated cost that comes from having to build and operate an oxygen plant next door to the power station, burn the coal in oxygen instead of air and then capture the carbon dioxide,and compress it in the new compressor equipment next door to the oxygen plant and pipe the compressed gas away to some distant location for underground disposal. The pipe line for this is also new of course. Look for electricity rates to double or even triple. It would make more sense to examine the greenhouse gas myths in a more scientific manner than has been done so far. The current reports that are the basis for the cap and trade proposals were written by believers who had prepared their conclusions before starting any of the research.

]]> By: Ed Nisbett http://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/2009/05/02/does-your-electricity-come-from-congress-approved-sources/comment-page-2/#comment-4310 Ed Nisbett Sat, 27 Mar 2010 19:45:00 +0000 http://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/?p=3576#comment-4310 Driving west last week on Interstate 40 near Amarillo, Texas I passed a large wind farm that literally stretched for miles, and most if not all of the windmills were turning. Returning east three days later only one or two of the units was working, demonstrating the utter unreliability of this method of power generation. It quite clear that conventional fossil power stations would have to kept going on a stand-by basis to maintain some semblance of reliability, again increasing cost. The so called clean coal system is almost as bad, although it will give a dependable power supply albeit at the inflated cost that comes from having to build and operate an oxygen plant next door to the power station, burn the coal in oxygen instead of air and then capture the carbon dioxide,and compress it in the new compressor equipment next door to the oxygen plant and pipe the compressed gas away to some distant location for underground disposal. The pipe line for this is also new of course. Look for electricity rates to double or even triple. It would make more sense to examine the greenhouse gas myths in a more scientific manner than has been done so far. The current reports that are the basis for the cap and trade proposals were written by believers who had prepared their conclusions before starting any of the research. Driving west last week on Interstate 40 near Amarillo, Texas I passed a large wind farm that literally stretched for miles, and most if not all of the windmills were turning. Returning east three days later only one or two of the units was working, demonstrating the utter unreliability of this method of power generation. It quite clear that conventional fossil power stations would have to kept going on a stand-by basis to maintain some semblance of reliability, again increasing cost. The so called clean coal system is almost as bad, although it will give a dependable power supply albeit at the inflated cost that comes from having to build and operate an oxygen plant next door to the power station, burn the coal in oxygen instead of air and then capture the carbon dioxide,and compress it in the new compressor equipment next door to the oxygen plant and pipe the compressed gas away to some distant location for underground disposal. The pipe line for this is also new of course. Look for electricity rates to double or even triple. It would make more sense to examine the greenhouse gas myths in a more scientific manner than has been done so far. The current reports that are the basis for the cap and trade proposals were written by believers who had prepared their conclusions before starting any of the research.

]]> By: BOB PRIEST http://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/2009/05/02/does-your-electricity-come-from-congress-approved-sources/comment-page-2/#comment-2349 BOB PRIEST Tue, 16 Feb 2010 07:41:05 +0000 http://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/?p=3576#comment-2349 I THINK JOHN HICKS SAID IT BEST I COULDN'T SAY IT BETTER RIGHT ON!!! WE JUST HAVE TO GET THE WORD OUT !!! I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY WHEN YOU TRY TO TALK TO A DEM. ABOUT THINGS LIKE THIS AFTER 10 MIN. ALMOST EVERY WORD IS 4 LETTER WORD. CAN'T THEY JUST TALK. I THINK JOHN HICKS SAID IT BEST I COULDN’T SAY IT BETTER RIGHT ON!!! WE JUST HAVE TO GET THE WORD OUT !!! I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY WHEN YOU TRY TO TALK TO A DEM. ABOUT THINGS LIKE THIS AFTER 10 MIN. ALMOST EVERY WORD IS 4 LETTER WORD. CAN’T THEY JUST TALK.

]]> By: BOB PRIEST http://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/2009/05/02/does-your-electricity-come-from-congress-approved-sources/comment-page-2/#comment-4309 BOB PRIEST Tue, 16 Feb 2010 07:41:00 +0000 http://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/?p=3576#comment-4309 I THINK JOHN HICKS SAID IT BEST I COULDN'T SAY IT BETTER RIGHT ON!!! WE JUST HAVE TO GET THE WORD OUT !!! I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY WHEN YOU TRY TO TALK TO A DEM. ABOUT THINGS LIKE THIS AFTER 10 MIN. ALMOST EVERY WORD IS 4 LETTER WORD. CAN'T THEY JUST TALK. I THINK JOHN HICKS SAID IT BEST I COULDN’T SAY IT BETTER RIGHT ON!!! WE JUST HAVE TO GET THE WORD OUT !!! I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY WHEN YOU TRY TO TALK TO A DEM. ABOUT THINGS LIKE THIS AFTER 10 MIN. ALMOST EVERY WORD IS 4 LETTER WORD. CAN’T THEY JUST TALK.

]]> By: John R. Hicks http://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/2009/05/02/does-your-electricity-come-from-congress-approved-sources/comment-page-1/#comment-1439 John R. Hicks Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:01:02 +0000 http://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/?p=3576#comment-1439 Somehow we must get through to the Washington establishment that: 1. We must drill, drill, drill. We need to develope the offshore resources. 2. We need to start using more natural gas not only for electrical generation but also transportation. 3. We need to renew our Nuclear energy efforts. This is the REAL way to become energy independant from foreign sources. 4. Wind and Solar might help SOMEWHAT, however they will never be able to supply even a small portion of our needs. Somehow we must get through to the Washington establishment that:

1. We must drill, drill, drill. We need to develope the offshore resources.

2. We need to start using more natural gas not only for electrical generation but also transportation.

3. We need to renew our Nuclear energy efforts. This is the REAL way to become energy independant from foreign sources.

4. Wind and Solar might help SOMEWHAT, however they will never be able to supply even a small portion of our needs.

]]> By: John R. Hicks http://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/2009/05/02/does-your-electricity-come-from-congress-approved-sources/comment-page-1/#comment-4308 John R. Hicks Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:01:00 +0000 http://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/?p=3576#comment-4308 Somehow we must get through to the Washington establishment that: 1. We must drill, drill, drill. We need to develope the offshore resources. 2. We need to start using more natural gas not only for electrical generation but also transportation. 3. We need to renew our Nuclear energy efforts. This is the REAL way to become energy independant from foreign sources. 4. Wind and Solar might help SOMEWHAT, however they will never be able to supply even a small portion of our needs. Somehow we must get through to the Washington establishment that:

1. We must drill, drill, drill. We need to develope the offshore resources.

2. We need to start using more natural gas not only for electrical generation but also transportation.

3. We need to renew our Nuclear energy efforts. This is the REAL way to become energy independant from foreign sources.

4. Wind and Solar might help SOMEWHAT, however they will never be able to supply even a small portion of our needs.

]]> By: Josephine Mauro http://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/2009/05/02/does-your-electricity-come-from-congress-approved-sources/comment-page-1/#comment-1438 Josephine Mauro Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:37:38 +0000 http://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/?p=3576#comment-1438 No cap and trade tax. Just dig the oil damn it. Americans are taxed to death already at the gas pumps. We will revolt. No more lawyers voted into congress. No cap and trade tax. Just dig the oil damn it. Americans are
taxed to death already at the gas pumps. We will revolt. No more
lawyers voted into congress.

]]> By: Josephine Mauro http://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/2009/05/02/does-your-electricity-come-from-congress-approved-sources/comment-page-1/#comment-4307 Josephine Mauro Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:37:00 +0000 http://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/?p=3576#comment-4307 No cap and trade tax. Just dig the oil damn it. Americans are taxed to death already at the gas pumps. We will revolt. No more lawyers voted into congress. No cap and trade tax. Just dig the oil damn it. Americans are
taxed to death already at the gas pumps. We will revolt. No more
lawyers voted into congress.

]]> By: JAMES ROGERS http://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/2009/05/02/does-your-electricity-come-from-congress-approved-sources/comment-page-1/#comment-1424 JAMES ROGERS Fri, 13 Nov 2009 04:17:27 +0000 http://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/?p=3576#comment-1424 i AM AGAINST THIS IT WOULD SEND COST OF FUEL OUT OF SIGHT BUT KEERY AND GORE ARE MULTI MILLIONAIRES THEY CAN AFFORD THIS THERE IS NO GLOUBLE WARMING THE SEASONS CHANGE EVERY 100 YEARS OR SO ALL THE SCIENCEIST I HAVE HEARD ON TV AND WHAT I READ THAT GORE MADE 100 MILLION ON IT IF THEY GET CAP AND TRADE THEY WILL MAKE MORE MILLIONS. THIS WHOLE THING IS A SCAM. AS LONG AS WE HAVE REID. POLSI AND KERRY AND BOXER IN BED WITH THE PRESIDENT THERE IS NOT MUCH WE CAN DO IF WE CAN HOW? i AM AGAINST THIS IT WOULD SEND COST OF FUEL OUT OF SIGHT BUT KEERY AND GORE ARE MULTI MILLIONAIRES THEY CAN AFFORD THIS THERE IS NO GLOUBLE WARMING THE SEASONS CHANGE EVERY 100 YEARS OR SO ALL THE SCIENCEIST I HAVE HEARD ON TV AND WHAT I READ THAT GORE MADE 100 MILLION ON IT IF THEY GET CAP AND TRADE THEY WILL MAKE MORE MILLIONS. THIS WHOLE THING IS A SCAM. AS LONG AS WE HAVE REID. POLSI AND KERRY AND BOXER IN BED WITH THE PRESIDENT THERE IS NOT MUCH WE CAN DO IF WE CAN HOW?

]]> By: JAMES ROGERS http://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/2009/05/02/does-your-electricity-come-from-congress-approved-sources/comment-page-1/#comment-4306 JAMES ROGERS Fri, 13 Nov 2009 04:17:00 +0000 http://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/?p=3576#comment-4306 i AM AGAINST THIS IT WOULD SEND COST OF FUEL OUT OF SIGHT BUT KEERY AND GORE ARE MULTI MILLIONAIRES THEY CAN AFFORD THIS THERE IS NO GLOUBLE WARMING THE SEASONS CHANGE EVERY 100 YEARS OR SO ALL THE SCIENCEIST I HAVE HEARD ON TV AND WHAT I READ THAT GORE MADE 100 MILLION ON IT IF THEY GET CAP AND TRADE THEY WILL MAKE MORE MILLIONS. THIS WHOLE THING IS A SCAM. AS LONG AS WE HAVE REID. POLSI AND KERRY AND BOXER IN BED WITH THE PRESIDENT THERE IS NOT MUCH WE CAN DO IF WE CAN HOW? i AM AGAINST THIS IT WOULD SEND COST OF FUEL OUT OF SIGHT BUT KEERY AND GORE ARE MULTI MILLIONAIRES THEY CAN AFFORD THIS THERE IS NO GLOUBLE WARMING THE SEASONS CHANGE EVERY 100 YEARS OR SO ALL THE SCIENCEIST I HAVE HEARD ON TV AND WHAT I READ THAT GORE MADE 100 MILLION ON IT IF THEY GET CAP AND TRADE THEY WILL MAKE MORE MILLIONS. THIS WHOLE THING IS A SCAM. AS LONG AS WE HAVE REID. POLSI AND KERRY AND BOXER IN BED WITH THE PRESIDENT THERE IS NOT MUCH WE CAN DO IF WE CAN HOW?

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